Forum:Saeko's Demise

This is a popular conversation, so I decided to create a new thread in the forum where speculation is supposed to go. Let me start by saying this is not a place to talk negatively about Saeko, just to discuss if and how her part in the story may come to an end.

I think it would be an interesting twist if Saeko turned on the others and became the primary antagonist. She already has the dark, sadistic personality, so it wouldn't really make me like her any less. Every good story has to have a good villian after all. I really don't think this is likely though. I do think that, if one of the characters was going to die, it would be Saeko, and I think this is very likely. It's no secret that HOTD is heavily influenced by George A. Romero's "The Living Dead" series in which most of the films end with all or most of the main characters dying. Because of this, we can assume that at the very least a couple main characters will die, and Saeko will surely be one. To me, it seems like there was a reason Saeko was given the handgun. She doesn't use guns, so it wouldn't make sense for her to use it in combat. My theory is that Saeko will be bitten sometime soon and then kill herself via a gunshot to the head. I realize it would be more characteristic for her to perform harikiri, but I think there has to be a reason for her to have the gun. Her sword could possibly break or she could lose it. I could be wrong, but it's just a theory.

If anyone else has any theories on how Saeko will die or become an antagonist, I'd love to hear them.Turambar1  04:07, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Again, thanks for moving and creating a new page for our messy discussions!

Wow nice theory!!! I think it could be her very demise!...but I'm interested in what will lead to her getting bitten? Perhaps protecting Takashi? LOL I do have a feeling that if there were main characters to die, then obviously Saeko would be in one of them. As much as I hate to say it, I'm sure the final 2 characters will probably be Rei and Takashi. I would love to avoid an ending with main characters dying....I'm not sure if you guys have seen zombieland, but if HoTD turns out to be like that, I'm fine with it as well. It seems like a legit ending which won't piss off everyone! Donutsonfire 04:13, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

well yall kno how i feel about saeko being a sociopath therefore i would copy the reason for her being an antagonist right here

Saeko is what you call a "sociopath"- a person who gets gratification off of someones pain. Her socipathic nature was probably born out of self defending herself against her assualter which unleashed the "dark passenger" within and she continues to beat the assualter until he was severly bruised and have a broken femur(if im correct), when Saeko learned she enjoyed being in power, she became afraid and hid behind a "mask" she made after her families "code of honor"( thus making her a nee-san type person);when the zombie outbreak happen she learned tht she can unleash the darkness within her by destroying "them", but Saeko then realized when she was fighting off "them" with Takashi tht she is losing her "humanity" at the cost of satisfying her urges. Once takashi accept Saeko as she is(which will be thing tht might cause her to progress farther from beating people), she began to unleash her urges even more on "them" which causes some characters to notice(mostly Shizuka), and if it continues Saeko will probably become bored of just killing Them and probably move torwards forcing her urges on other survivors or even her own group(most likely Rei will be her main target).

Personally i believe tht Saeko dosen't really "love" Takashi, but wants to cling on someone to remind her of the humanity tht she strives to keep, but cannot due to her nature. Thus thts why she flirts with him and agrees to something he said to get Takashi to pay more attention to her rather than his true object of affection Rei; as Turambar said before Takashi will realize that he loves Rei and tell Saeko there cannot be nothing between them thus will make Saeko finally snap and loose the rest of her humanity and start targeting those she despise.

God reading about serial killers for fun in middle school really does help give you some knowledge of what goes on in a serial killers mind and thank you Dexter for the term Dark Passenger

Term: Dark Passenger: a term used by Dexter Morgan uses to represent the "demon" or "dark urges" within all of us. the passenger usually comes out during a dark event or a dark interest mostly.

now how she would dies is probably either she is going to be self sacrifice or a mercy kill by another member when she gets bitMrPacheco101 22:47, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

I know....I don't want her to die though *sniffles* *sniffles* TT_TTDonutsonfire 04:29, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Great theory, Turambar1! I agree with every part. I think the handgun's purpose thing was also very interesting.

Overall, I don't have an exact theory on it, but I do think that Saeko will cause the bringing of her demise herself. She's a skilled fighter, and I'm sure she's more than confident in her skills and that she's the best fighter in the group. Including how she gets off and enjoys killing Them, I think she'll get too carried away fighting, but she'll still believe she can take all the numbers. When becoming so into fighting them and not caring whether she can handle things or not, she'll get bitten by Them and like Turambar1 said, I love the idea of the handgun's purpose that you thought up of, and that's when she'll use it.

I love most of the characters, and I'd hate to see the majority or all of them die. I at least hope Takashi, Rei, and Shizuka and Alice make it out alive. It'd be really depressing though if Hirano and Saya died, but if Hirano dies, most likely Saya is the one that'll follow. I really hope it doesn't get to that point, though.

Unlike some people though, I really don't like the idea of JUST Shizuka and Alice surviving. They're the characters so far that have had least development imo and it'd just really suck to have our mains that we focus on die. Natalie1213 23:21, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

LOL please nobody die....lol...why did we all propose ideas that involved characters dying??!??!?! I don't want any of them to die! Without one of them, HOTD would never be HOTD again.....Donutsonfire 19:08, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Donotsonfire, without one of them HOTD will never be the same again, and For the love of character development and the characters no one should die because the characters itself is lovable in their own way, in case of Saeko its either she could control her demise or not, since in their situation is either flight or fight, whatever their choices are as long as their humanity and sanity is intact... they are still humans

Finally someone sees HOTD in my light XD!!!! Yeah I just don't want any of them to die. What I don't mind is if they introduce another important "minor" character and let them die off after a few chapters/episodes...Or they can add more "late" main characters. I think that'll spice things upDonutsonfire 23:48, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Wow I just came to the same conclusion that you guys came to that the most likely main character to die would be Saeko. The most convincing point is that she's a character with a dark, sadistic streak that would possibly lead her to lose herself in combat and get bitten. I seriously don't want this to happen, but I'm sure most fans would accept it as the story would only continue to rise in tension and thus awesomeness...I'm pretty sure Takashi would go into some sort of depression that would lead either him, Rei or the entire group into a fatal situation during which he snaps out of it and saves himself, Rei or the entire group.

Also the fact that she just seems so invincible. In most manga/anime, or at least the ones that I have seen, those invincible and nearly flawless characters that are like the senpai character of the group tend to almost always die. I think a lot of fans will be displeased with it and possibly even drop it. I've heard of quite a few people who are only "reading and watching the anime for Saeko". I see that a lot, so if she dies some people will stop reading it. Rei might also get more hate. Either the author will go according to what fans want or will follow his own story even at the cost of haters. Sometimes I think HotD won't have a happy ending when I pay a bit more attention to Takashi's inner monologues. I need to read the manga again to see if all of the ones from the anime are all in the manga. We just have to wait and see but I doubt that HoTD will end in the next 2-3 years. Natalie1213 16:38, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Man people who jus watch the show just for Saeko should roll up in their graves and die! The manga doesn't revolve around Saeko and they need to learn that their favorite characters are next in the chopping block as any other character. Hopefully Daisuke does not follow what the fan say and go what he think is right. As Tunabar said the series is heavily influenced by Romeros' Night of The Living Dead where pretty much most of the main characters die, but it also has influences by Image comics The Walking Dead(I found some good similarities) for its plot twists and the characters you never expected to die dies(I.e. Death of Higashi from the very beginning was something the readers never expected.) Hopefully Daisuke will kill off Saeko soon to make the story more intresting to the readersMrPacheco101 19:31, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Haha, I don't think anything exaggerative like that, but I really do dislike it when people say that. I've had friends come to me and go "whatever, i'm just watching it for Saeko. if she dies, I'll drop it." and it really does anger me. HoTD isn't a series about just Saeko, it has other characters in it too, you know. She might be one of the mains and really popular and all but there's also other main characters. It really does upset me.

Wow, well I'm kind of anxious. I wonder what will happen to who if things are planned to be unexpected. That just makes me think Saeko will die even more. Ah, I'm not even sure anymore! xD We'll just have to wait and see. But her death or at the very least becoming the antagonist will surely be a big climax of HotD. I hope it isn't a complete bittersweet or sad ending. I'm tired of seeing and reading a bunch of shows and actually liking them an awful lot to only get a bittersweet ending. Lately that's all I see. A completely happy ending is impossible and all but at least not so bittersweet and stuff, you know. I trust it to Daisuke. Putting myself in Saeko fans' shoes though, I'd be pretty sad and angry for a long time if Rei died so I can understand the rage that will go on from them, haha. I hope most or all of the mains survive. But if I had to think of a candidate, it'd definitely be Saeko. Or maybe he's trying to use a reverse thing and make us think she'll die but she might not? There's hope for both sides. Natalie1213 19:41, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Heck Natatile it'll even be more shocking if Daisuke does a Walking Dead move and has Alice-chan die :O! Theres a no better shock then having a child die an early death in a popular series, anything can happen in the world of Zombies. that is true a happy ending in any anime series is virtually imposssible, but hey not evreybody can have an happy ending.MrPacheco101 20:17, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

LOL. If anyone were to die soon...I would have to say it's Rei's mom. Mainly because she has just been introduced as a supporting character, and like Asami, she'll probably be killed off soon. However, unlike how Asami's death only minorly affected Kohta, Rei's mom will probably cause Rei to break down and eventually cause Rei to go nuts, which could lead to her death. Not that I'm trying to find an alternative to the next character dying, but I'm sure the Satos have something going on with the manga volume jackets, which pretty much cycles in 3s (volume 1 has rei, 2 has saeko, 3 has saaya, 4 has rei, 5 has saeko, 6 has saaya, 7 has rei, and eventually it should repeat), thus I don't think Saeko or Saaya will be dying anytime soon. IN the case that this series runs for more than 9 volumes, then for sure Saeko won't be killed off. Ah well, we'll see. If Saeko dies, I'll still watch for Rei and Saaya, just the fact that I'll feel somewhat empty will disappoint me. Its not that HOTD can't survive without Saeko, but the # of people who are fixated on Saeko is just too many and perhaps it might impact sales and what not if she died, but hey, this will be a test of dedication to HOTD! 07:05, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I find it unlikely that Kiriko will die, mostly because I find it extremely unlikely that Rei would go crazy or die. No matter how many fans prefer Saeko, Rei has obviously been the leading female character since the start of the series, and I think Daisuke likes her too much to kill her off. This is evidenced by the fact that she is the most dynamic of the main characters and has been developed more than any other character in the series. Unless there was a situation in which all of the main characters died, or at least Takashi, I think she's safe. The only reason Saeko's death seems more likely to me is that she has played almost no part in the plot over the last few chapters. If she does die, or if any of the main characters die for that matter, I don't think it would happen untill the last chapter.Turambar1  14:40, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think that Kiriko might die, but not completely soon. I do think Rei's dad is dead, though. But if she does, I don't think Rei will go crazy, mainly for the sole reason that Takashi will be there to keep her hanging in there and give her strength, giving some spotlight back to Takashi and Rei's relationship developing after we got some development with his and Saeko's. Who knows? I also agree that while I personally think Shouji has a thing for Saeko considering how it seems that he gives her the best outfits like in the latest chapter and exaggerates on some things like her hair, face, and lips, Daisuke has a thing for Rei. All of her development and being a strong character with attitude shows that, as well as his effort to increase her popularity in the Cosplay of the Dead chapter that was focused on her. I agree with Turambar1. I think if a main character dies it'll be in the last few chapters, so the other last ones can be the ending and resolution and all. Natalie1213 21:36, May 4, 2011 (UTC

I already came to late to say anything in this conversation, so all i got to say is that anything can go in this manga. Maybe Kiriko will die(just like Asami), maybe Saeko will die(Just like what this conversation is all about),or maybe little Alice chan will get bitten and becomes a zombie ofr the gang to sadly kill(just for Shock value). anything can happenMrPacheco101 01:05, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

People will end up dying anyway, but I certainly hope none of the main character die. However, having said that, I think someone important needs to die...otherwise HOTD will just lose its appeal and end up really boring. I would definitely be shocked if the next person to die was Alice...that just seems...too...explicit? Ah well, I actually wouldn't mind if Saeko died because of the plot, but I would still be somewhat disappointed 06:16, May 5, 2011 (UTC)