Forum:Saeko is not pregnant

This has been an irritating and persistent problem for a long time now. I'm tired of people contributing speculation on the character pages about Takashi and Saeko having sex and Saeko being pregnant. It seems every time I change/move/delete this, it just appears again in a few days. First of all, this sort of information hardly even qualifies as belonging in the Trivia section, as trivia is supposed to be interesting facts about a character. I can understand how some people who haven't read the manga saw episode 9 and formed some wild speculations, but people are taking it as fact, and it's not. For one thing, Takashi and Saeko never kissed in the manga. That should be enough evidence, but sadly it's not. Next, while they obviously have some kind of awkward attraction to each other, at that point in the story, their relationship was on a "close friends" level and far from romantic. The skirt is the thing which I can't understand how people mistake it. I'll ask a general question: do you wear pants while you sleep? Does it not make sense that Saeko would take her skirt off to sleep? Finally, the "take responsibility" line. This is something I think gets lost in translation and taken out of context. Seako is simply telling him to take responsibility as the leader since, before then, he hadn't fully accepted himself as being the leader of the group. I know I won't be changing any opinions, but I hope I have helped to seperate fact from speculation.--Turambar1 05:46, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Well i totally agree with you that it can become a great fiasco, but I believe that crazy fans can possess their own crazy fantasies. Nothing will hurt if its just wild beliefs, but forcing it onto others is another. Well I know they didn't kiss in the manga, and they kinda did in the anime. The reason why i say kinda is because we NEVER actually EVER saw the kiss taking place. It was just an exchange of intimate looks and then leaning into each other. The skirt thing is another issue. On one hand, i agree with the fans that it could mean they had sex, but the more moral side of me thinks...who the hell sleeps with their pants on?! Then again, who would sleep in a thong beside some dude you met 2-3 days ago? Their relationship...i think...is somwhere between close friends and romantic feelings. In the manga, if you carefully read the part where Saeko says she is of the female sex and would comfort Takashi...I think that might be hinting to a developed romantic interest towards Takashi. Just my speculation. Could be wrong...who knows? About the "take responsibility" part...it is a rather interesting issue. I think it is too ambiguous to say for sure, but on instinct, I'd have to go with they had sex and she got pregnant. That is just the way Asian culture seems to me. Otherwise, I've never ever heard a girl being so direct and saying "you'll take responsibility, right?". Perhaps Sato-san was just leaving room for the wild fantasies of his beloved fans. I guess none of the speculations can be confirmed OR denied as the only final answer depends on waht Sato-san comes out with next.Donutsonfire 06:09, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure if I can completely agree with you there. The speculation only started when the anime came out, which the Satos had nothing to do with. I really don't think there is any ambiguity in the manga in what she said. Also if you look at the frame in which Saeko is pulling up her skirt, Takashi is making a point to stare in the opposite direction, as he always does when a girl needs privacy to change. Why would he do that if he had just had sex with her?

I'm not trying to force anyone to change their opinion, though if someone changed their opinion after seeing the facts I've posted, it would be fine with me. The point is, people are posting stuff like this on character pages where it clearly doesn't belong. We may just need to make a "Speculations" section on each page.Turambar1 06:39, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Actually I don't believe we need a "speculations" section...in the trivia...its not like the people who contributed wrote a definite "fact". I was also careful to make sure the un-confirmed speculations be put as "some fans believe". Hey and its all about respect...its like a one night stand XD. Well i agree with you that the speculations began after the anime came out..Donutsonfire